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We have to remember that when the early Church Fathers used the word "impassive" it did not mean exactly what it means now after +1700 years. When Orthodox theologians explain what it means, it very much carries the sense that God can't be forced in any way - it's tied in with his complete freedom in love. One gets this sense in tracing the etymology:

OFr < LL(Ec) passio, a suffering, esp. that of Christ (< L passus, pp. of pati, to endure < IE base *pē-, to harm > Gr pēma, destruction, L paene, scarcely): transl. of Gr pathos. (from Collins Online English Dictionary)

[Old French from Late Latin (ecclesiastical use - passio, a suffering, especially that of Christ (from Latin passus, past participle of pati to endure, from the Indo-European base *pē-, to harm, leading to the Greek pēma, destruction, Latin paene, scarcely); translation of Greek pathos.]

In other words, God is not affected in such a way that he endures harm or destruction or diminishment. Christ as the GodMan certainly, as a human, has human emotions, and in the hypostatic union his Divine Person participates in all of that, but never in such a way that it harms him ontologically or forces him to do anything other than act in self-giving love.

I don't know exactly why, but the way we westerners think about this (perhaps it's our very psychological bent post-Freud?) gets us all tied up in knots. It didn't make any sense to me until I considered Eastern Christian thought.

Dana

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I appreciate the argument, but I don't know if God is "impassive" to my angry rants at God.

When my children would yell in anger over some rule or discipline in our household, and when I hear their frustration and pain, and do not respond in kind, that's not impassivity. Controlling my angry response and then responding in mature love and patience would not be impassivity.

Maybe there's more clarification for me coming in part two.

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