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Dan Sides's avatar

I’m not sure on this one. If I understand, what Lindbeck is saying is that proper expression of an experience is essential to the meaningfulness of that experience. However, I think everyone has had experiences that can’t properly be described, no matter how astute or poetic is one’s linguistic capabilities. It’s like seeing a sunset and then taking a picture of it. The picture just can’t ever quite capture the beauty in the same way it was originally experienced. That doesn’t mean there are not beautiful pictures of sunsets, but no matter how beautiful, the picture can’t match the experience.

In a similar way, there are aspects of faith experience that a non-believer cannot perceive or understand; it has to be experienced. I have reasons for my faith that I can explain, facts and events and logical arguments. But in truth, why do I persevere? It’s because of my experiences that I can’t really explain.

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Mike Shell's avatar

"It is necessary to have the means of expressing an experience in order to have it." This assertion troubles me. Experience precedes expression.

Yes, the human brain does abstract from perceived experience and assign a symbol system to the bits it recognizes through repeated exposure. Yes, the brain needs these symbols in order to "think about" what it perceives of experience. But these symbols are merely nicknames, placeholders, for the few bits of experience that the brain captures by perception. And the brain is thinking about the symbols, not about the whole, real experience--which precedes cognition.

Our greatest struggles with ourselves and with each other over "religion" arise from our struggles over our symbol systems. Worse, over our insistance the this symbol system is "right" and that one is "wrong." Worse still, there is so much of reality that we cannot see, precisely because we only look at what our symbol systems tell us to look at.

It seems to me that our symbol systems are themselves what is behind attention blindness. It is our symbol systems that express and also enforce our beliefs, assumptions, and expectations.

A prime contemporary example: American "christianist" culture is wandering deeper and deeper into the weeds because we cling to a socially contrived symbol system--based on belief, not on biology--that insists there are only male and female genders and that there is only heterosexuality, with homosexuality as an aberrant CHOSEN behavior.

At a deeper, far more essential level, what we let ourselves look at, perceive, and know about sacred reality is severely constrained by what our symbol systems tell us is "real."

The sacred, the divine, refuses to be represented by any symbol. It simply says, "I AM."

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