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Alan Lyon's avatar

I appreciate how 12 step recovery, at least the first 3 steps, are mentioned. 12 step recovery closely resembles Cognitive Behavioral Therapy which also parallels action based spiritual development. It gives us a role to play in our own healing/recovery, which we do have.

Being on another side of this issue, meaning I mentor & counsel people with addiction & mental health issues, I don’t venture into the pharmacology because I’m not a doctor. I do venture into the healing part. I’ve learned to go far enough into an issue so that the person I’m counseling feels the pain but not so far that they are left destitute. I always stay with them, side by side, until the pain resides & healing seems to be had. This is never the goal though. I listen & ask questions & they share what & how much they are willing to. I will share with them specifically how Jesus offers healing while never discussing reducing or getting off meds. I do my best to venture into the desert with them & let the angels minister to them. Several of these people have, on their own accord, reduced or eliminated meds, not all. Again, this is never my objective…ever.

The healing power of Christ is broad & expansive. Our primary goal is to “feed His sheep” & to “disciple”. Medical technology & faith absolutely mix. Medical technology would have never made it out of the dark ages without faith & more specifically Christianity. Medical technology was pioneered by Christianity as a means to better take care of the sick as Jesus commanded us to. A main concern should be when pills take the place of faith. When we pop a pill to feel better versus act in a responsible manor which is harder & takes more effort.

A contributing factor to others healing is “our own house being in order”. It’s been proven that association with followers of Christ, true followers not just believers, those who have experienced their own healing by the power of the Holy Spirit, brings about healing in others. That we are, in fact, lights on a hill, salt in the world of tasteless & rotting. This seems to be the case for the people I interact with. I’m not saying I’m some saint without thousands of more hours of work needed however the work the Holy Spirit has done in me seems to shine to those in darkness. This I only give credit to God & I truly believe He did way more in me than I did outwardly. I only mention that to be encouraging. “Be transformed” & others will benefit. Do what we are supposed to do & let the Spirit of God do what He’s going to do. Just don’t side step God.

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Angela's avatar

You are right to resist both Jay Adams and extreme charismatic views, as well as a materialistic medical view. As to medication, there would be no problems with taking it if it was safe and worked. We arent against it merely because its medication, but because of its debilitating side effects, permanent dementia, tendency to cause suicides and violence in mild-mannered people, and withdrawal symptoms, all of which has been documented. Many, many psychiatrists have researched and written on the dangers of psych meds, and I have personally had multiple horrible experiences with them and particularly akithisia. (Dr Peter Breggin among many others) I would recommend you not comment on drugs without first learning the dangers and how to watch for akithisia and withdrawal symptoms, both of which side effects are often dismissively considered as more symptoms of one's mental illness, and reason to give more drugs. The average bipolar person is said to take 8 drugs, which of course all interact to cause exponential problems, and generally debilitated a person to where they cannot enjoy life, have a job, or even care for themselves without assistance.

Also since all things have both a mind and body component, it is absolutely critical that people also take extremely good care with their diet, exercise, supplements, sleep, social connections, uplifting and inspiring input and activities. And yes, get good therapy from someone competent who is up on research, and trauma informed. (Most people who deal with serious mental illness have been traumatized or abused. I am from an abusive marriage.) And learn to sit at Jesus' feet and simply love Him and bask in His love, which is so healing and the key to Life.

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