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Alan Stanley's avatar

I’m not a fan of trying to avoid mystery either, but neither do I feel the need to preserve a particular way of speaking about the Trinity when reflecting on Gethsemane—or the cross, for that matter.

In my mind, Jesus and the Father are one, and Jesus knows it (John 17). But I wonder if it is precisely because of this oneness that Jesus prays as he does in Gethsemane, rather than his prayer giving the impression that they are somehow not one.

In other words, it is because Jesus cannot bear the thought of being separated from this communion (anticipating his cry on the cross) that he expresses his desire for the cup to pass from him. His plea for another way is not evidence that he and the Father are not one. Rather, it is precisely because they are one that the prospect of the cross is so agonizing.

Kamil Jankielewicz's avatar

I cannot agree more. God who can be fully explained and understood is an idol, not God.

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