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David Lipscomb's avatar

I think you've missed an important part of Deneen and other's position which is that, Liberalism itself, while claiming some level of neutrality, is itself a religious system. It's just the water that we swim in. It has its own virtues and goods and heresies - there is no neutral. I'd prefer the state's understanding of "promoting the general welfare" be rooted in the christian vision of the Good over the Liberal, individualistic (maybe atheistic when it comes down to it) version.

In a sense, the state is always going to promote some notion of what is good, and do so in a way that is at least a simulacrum to religion. After the last 20 years or so - being one of the few millennials that remembers the old world where there was at least a neutral understanding of christian virtue that the populous held - I'd say I'd prefer we rewind the clock away from the anything goes I'm my own determiner of the good, and if you tell me otherwise you are evil, back to a world where there was social stigma around certain behaviors and activities.

William C. Green's avatar

What a wonderfully comprehensive yet concise overview of a critical debate. I will purchase Congdon’s article, though I’m sure I can trust your summary. I suspect what we have here is another instance of how we can become complicit in what we otherwise deplore—or should deplore. Before we award Antigone a halo, we should ask what sense she makes without Creon.

No Antigones without Creon: less a warning than a disclosure of postliberal politics. The move from separatist purity to coercive purification is historically and psychologically easier than Hauerwasians may want to admit.

I also suspect Congdon’s argument is not simply, “Hauerwas caused Trump.” That would be crude. More likely, postliberal theology supplied habits of thought, networks, and rhetoric that later political postliberals could radicalize.

Your overview invites close attention to what you have already said and will now pursue. Thank you!

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