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I'm a little confused there. People believe the election was stolen, rightly or wrongly... how in the world does that make them Christian Nationalists? I suspect there were a number of secular, functionally secular, and non christian people involved in stop the steal. Many of the most radical and worrisome in the post liberal right are not Christian at all, rather adopting pagan frameworks. Even then - the stop the steal people are not even necessarily post liberal. Most of them are poor folks who were down on their luck, putting all their eggs in Trump's basket.

I was hopeful about this series, but this is poor analysis Dr. Beck.

Christian Nationalism, as it was understood until it became a political weapon of the Left, was the integration of Church and State power. Maybe some of the integralists meet that definition. Vermule certainly bothers me a bit. And Dominionists are obviously disturbing and increasingly a problem since they seemingly are working hand in hand with Netanyahu - but most people use Christian Nationalism as a cudgel, just the same as the definition of racism and all the "phobias" are expanded as a weapon to silence any who disagree with leftist political conclusions.

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As one who, from the other side of the Pond, has read several analyses of the unholy alliance between Evangelicals and the Republican Party (especially Trump), but remain perplexed as to how such an alliance could come about, I find your post interesting and helpful. The cognitive dissonance is a dimension I hadn't come across before.

However, concerning the January 6 insurrection, my view starts with the undisputed fact that Donald Trump is an extreme narcissist. Just as (much less seriously) he couldn't bear the thought of the crowd at his inauguration being less than that at Barack Obama's, he couldn't thole the possibility of losing the 2020 election. But he is (or was) more cunning and devious than he is often made out to be, and he had enough wit to realise that he might lose, so he started planting the seeds of the Big Lie well ahead of the election. This prepared his followers to believe it.

As for whether the insurrection was Christian Nationalism, I respond: Nationalism - yes. Christian - not on your Nellie (as we say in Scotland). No way is a violent event based on an untruth Christian. And even for those who were conned or brainwashed into believing it to be true, it was still violent. But your analysis is probably the first I have read by a psychologist, and that perspective definitely sheds light on the mentality. (See also my reply to David Lipscomb, below.)

Christian nationalism remains alive and well (although past its prime) in Northern Ireland. I'd see it as more "Christian" than the USA version, as it has more of a theological (Protestant Reformation / Calvinist) basis than anything I see in the USA. And yet I still reject it as a true expression of Christianity. I know of no better commentary on the Northern Ireland situation than Runrig's song "Eirinn" (google it!), the last verse of which is:

Now one world window opens wide and demons they show face

Some of your men have taken seeds of truth and planted fields of hate.

This way has never won a war, and I fear that when harvest comes

You'll see your freedom fall on stony ground and the green all overgrown.

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