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Alan Lyon's avatar

When the debates about God get into the cosmos the winner of those debates ends up being the one who is the smartest or knows the most about the scientific. I’m neither of those so I steer away from them. My “coming to Jesus” wasn’t about that anyways, it was about what He had done inside my mind & heart. I can not relate to all persons on an intellectual level nor is that the best place for us all to meet. Where we all can agree is on the emotional, motivational, instinctual level, in other words on the heart. God made us that way. He lives in our hearts therefore that’s where He desires us to meet others at. Not on national, race, intellect, financial status levels, at the level of the heart.

All humans feel some variation of the same emotions, experience hurt in the same root ways. Fear is fear, love is love, higher purpose is higher purpose across all nationalities, all religions, both sexes. This is because God put His seed inside each & every person, we are after all made in His image. Atheists, agnostics & believers alike have in common a striving for a better, they all respect (or fear) the judgement that better makes on them (this is the fear of the Lord). When times are tough they all hope or pray upward, to something better than who they’ve proven to be. When we have even a brief moment of honest humility we realize that to be better we must aim at what is greater than we are wherever or whoever we think that is. That is a universal human trait. That is the proof of God.

Jordan Peterson masterfully unwraps this from the psychological perspective in his lecture series called Maps of Meaning. It’s available on his YouTube channel & very helpful in helping me understand this better.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL22J3VaeABQCn5nTAx65NRlh1EsKD0UQD&si=wZ9o6b5u_uKf8y_9

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Mike Rodrigues, Portland's avatar

"We know that the universe cannot be its own explanation." Well stated. I'll be using that statement. Love it.

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