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Tim Miller's avatar

Very interesting!

People on the Christian nationalist right are firmly grounded in the Christian ontological layer, and yet (from my point of view anyway), it hasn't kept them from going off the rails in the moral layer. And historically, people deeply grounded in the Christian ontological layer have committed grave wrongs against others who have seen things differently from them. So I don't really see that a firm grounding in the Christian ontological layer produces loving and gracious behavior in the moral layer. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. My sisters are at best agnostics, more likely atheists, and they are deeply moral and loving and gracious. It seems to be their empathy, their mirror neurons if you will, that keeps them grounded in goodness. They do struggle with meaning, but then so do I and I am more grounded in the Christian ontological layer than they are. When I say I struggle with meaning, I mean that I often feel at sea as to whether anything I do really matters. Sure, I think being part of God's eternal community is meaningful, but I often don't feel like that community is very evident now or yet. If God were less hidden, perhaps it would be different. But God is very shy and reticent to a fault at this point in cosmic history.

I will be anxiously awaiting your next posts in this series to see if you address issues like this!

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Melinda Meshad's avatar

Let's talk some more! This conversation is truly critical in a society that has no shared morals, and where capitalism seems to have moved into the void and is defining what is meaningful... and who matters. We are in an existential crisis.... having really decided that those in service in our society don't have much worth, and creating a society where if you don't chase material wealth, you may not ever have a home or family. Now with A.I., and with the questioning or hiding of factual science, and even with how easy we can fall into cognitive errors, what is true gets blurry. If we turn to the church...well.. for the most part, they have become nationalists that have literally gone mad. Help!!

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