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Dennis Doyle's avatar

Richard, I have to ask—have we really arrived at a place where the path to the Real is effectively closed to anyone who is not a mystic? I understand and appreciate your emphasis on mystical encounter; it can deepen one’s sense of the ontological and bring new clarity to faith. But I wonder if this framing risks sidelining the countless ways the Real has been experienced, recognized, and acted upon through ordinary human life, prophetic witness, and moral engagement.

Consider the biblical prophets, or historical figures like Douglass, King, and Bonhoeffer. Their encounters with the Real were often forged in the heat of injustice, suffering, and moral imagination. They named evil, bore witness to suffering, and compelled change—not necessarily through mystical visions, but through courage, solidarity, and moral insight. Ontology was present in their acts, even if it was not framed as mystical encounter.

To suggest that the Real can only be approached mystically seems to risk creating an unnecessary barrier: if one is not a mystic, the pathway is closed, and the ordinary, lived moral and prophetic experience becomes insufficient. Might it be more fruitful to see mystical encounter as one pathway to the Real, complementary to the prophetic and the lived, rather than the sole avenue?

If our goal is to restore the church to a sense of ontological depth, perhaps we should cultivate both: the mystical and the human, the transcendent and the immanent, recognizing that the Real can be encountered in many dimensions of faithful life.

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Dana Ames's avatar

Our imagination has become so constricted in the wake of our enslavement to the left brain way of functioning. We need reminders and examples of how to get to and experience and express the ontologic, the Real especially when we're gathered for worship. We need continual pointers to Meaning. The church should be the deepest source of all of this.

Thanks again for your contribution to helping us think about this and hopefully also act as we are acted on, as we abide in Christ.

Dana

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