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Jeremy's avatar

Some conflating thoughts

- Nature and Humanity created by grace and empowered by grace in the beginning (Eden): it is good, and with women, very good. Man given charge over nature, ostensibly to administer with and by the wisdom/grace of God

- man strikes out to do it on his own, without God. Grace is withdrawn? Or unable to continue through nature and humanity without the constant supply from God working with/through humanity (when in right relationship)

- Jesus appears to bring salvation

I’m stuck with how and what this actually is. It is heavily symbolic (Passover sacrifice, blood cleansing sacred space, Jesus as ultimate first born sacrifice, beauty of an innocent giving life up to save the guilty). Yes also must have achieved something. He broke the physical law of sin, as an innocent who had not sinned, received death as a punishment. But how did that work, as many prophets and others pulled on the grace of the crucifixion. Somehow the crucifixion enabled grace to flow freely back into humanity, and even back into time to enable those before the crucifixion to exist in right relationship- he did and had always done the work. How did that act disable the work of the devil, and neuter the accuser and deceiver?

So much of grace is accepting that we are already children of God, already co-heirs with Christ, already chosen, already grace empowered... How is that not different from a

‘Cosmic Christ’?

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JD  Fitz's avatar

I believe we are "graced” by the awe we experience in nature. I believe this awe opens a hole through which we can sense a heavenly light and feel the overwhelming, graceful, saving breath of God - Gods sacred creation, his "pinhole camera” focused on himself. So the view through nature is continuous - like a photon continuously traveling through space, while there is discontinuous space between this pinhole and the subject, God himself, who in this case is looking back at us

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