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Melinda Meshad's avatar

I would think that the move towards Orthodoxy, or these old world traditions has to also, for some, be about running away from this very self-centered, materialistic, and fast moving impersonal society we find ourselves in. I find myself getting a lot more nostalgic than I would have thought I would be, comparing "back then" to now. I feel old now, in this way. On my recent trip to Italy, walking through Rome and the winding cobble stones along the coastal towns,.. and walking through medieval towns in Croatia, I was able to imagine myself in a different world, one where years and centuries were spent trying to reach the greatest human potential in the churches, the buildings, and the art. Instead, today is so much about spending time creating what brings immediate pleasures, immediate profit. So much garbage surrounds me daily. The Maxxing on Me era. There was a weight to the old beauty, the detailed longevity. For many of us, even those that are not nerds, this escape is tempting. I find myself spending a lot more time in nature, and in that, there is a bit of paganism. My worship is best done there, away from the bustle and in what is natural.

Mike Henry Bolzenius's avatar

I appreciate the warnings and I think you make a great point, but “the thinness and superficiality of modern life and low-brow evangelical culture” is exactly why Christianity is so irrelevant to so many, and why teachers like Richard Rohr are so popular these days, because truth is also intuitively felt and I find myself looking toward the likes of Origen and Orthodoxy to bring an intuitive mysticism into things. I’ve well and truly left Pentecost and am quite conservative theologically after deconstruction/reconstruction, finding a home in a good local evangelical church ( Brisbane, Australia) but it’s teaching is so culturally mainstream and somewhat surfacy and my character is immensely curious ( somewhat neurodivergent methinks) that I need to swim and explore in those deeper historical waters, especially to counter what I feel are the dangers of the progressive drift. I can be open to some commonalities of perennial wisdom traditions with Christianity, I certainly understand their appeal as I’ve explored that world significantly, but firmly believe in the need to be grounded on the centrality of Christ and the Cross. This is where I find myself looking toward Eastern Orthodoxy et al. That overlap with the eastern mystical traditions and the development of the Western faith is something the early church had with the likes of the desert fathers, and interestingly, the Nestorians were helpful in aiding Buddhism enter China. For me, this makes Eastern Orthodoxy worth exploring with such ideas as hopeful Universalism and genuine ecumenical dialogue, though honestly, too much ritual leaves me cold. I view the faith as being very primitive indeed and would like to see it display itself even in our evangelical churches as more in a casual love feast / house church familiarity. Perhaps as Christendom continues to collapse and the post Christian world increases, the Church that rises from the ashes will reflect that original simplicity, with a heritage of a grounded theology with many of the cobwebs removed so we can display the unity Jesus prayed for. The post Christian world may be ultimately a good thing for Christianity. The Jesus movement certainly had that freshness, Gen Z or later might find it again.

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