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Rebecca C's avatar

I'd say yes to what you've proposed, with a couple of modifications. First, my experience in the progressive church is that the word "sin" is avoided, unless quickly followed by progressive-friendly modifiers. The sin of... white supremacy, or patriarchy, or hate rhetoric. Second, do progressives really believe in an after-death hell? Or is the evangelistic fervor more oriented toward the 'hell' of social and economic penalty for the sinner in this life? I'm suggesting this because of the potential social cost of espousing any form of Biblical hell, but I don't know what is actually believed in people's hearts.

What both sides have in common, I think, is a sense of revulsion or disgust about eating with sinners or washing their feet. However 'sinner' is defined.

Jason Martin's avatar

I assume that this may constitute its own series of posts, but I think the phrase “going to hell” confuses the issue. For many, conservative or liberal, it implies hell as a physical place like prison. You commit the crime, then you are convicted and sent to prison (hell). It is applying a human convention and assumption to a divine concept, which I see as misguided. As a progressive Christian, I do believe in “hell,” but I frame it as a state of being, rather than a physical place, and it’s a state of our own creation. Hell is separation from God, and we are the ones who separate ourselves from God. The acts that one might define as “sinful” are simply some of the indicators that we may be separating ourselves from God. But ultimately, that’s a determination for each individual to determine between God and themselves (yes, I know my liberalism is showing). I agree that focusing on eschatology likely is the wrong place to focus, especially because the afterlife and all that it may encompass are probably far beyond our understanding, but I doubt it merely resembles a human prison system (or all-inclusive resort for the heaven equivalent). Time and time again, the Bible reminds me that my focus needs to be on now, today, and the good I can do in the world and for my fellow humans. How that plays out in the afterlife is somewhat secondary in most of the Bible as I read it. For the notion of sin, I want to avoid anything that I believe violates the Greatest Commandment, not for fear of eternal damnation but because it separates me from God and the joy, peace, and fulfillment therein. Sin is as much a problem for me today as in whatever afterlife may follow, perhaps more.

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